The Yes Vote Is Not A Victory For the Workers.

by gaybanker Sun May 24, 2015 21:09

Just a political distraction. Nothing more.
They dragged this out for months to distract us. Next up they'll throw us the abortion football again.
Pissing themselves laughing at us behind closed doors they are.

You won't see any referenda on whether banks private losses can be socialised again without consulting the people.
Nor will you see any on EU membership
Or privatisation of state assets
Or TD's and upper civil service administrators and banksters pay levels.
Or Nama
Or social housing / rent controls

or anything that truly affects 100% of the population as opposed to just ~5% or less who are gay and want to get married,
or the tiny number of arrogant young fianna fail members considering running for president.

We've been had ladies and gentlemen. Consider the cynical disdain our political class must hold the general public in to
put this before us as the priority referendum we need to hold above all others. It's a huge insult to us all.
I'm happy gay folk can now get married, but relative to other far more important matters that affect all of us, holding this referendum first,
was a complete FG / Labour inside joke on the public at large.

by Mike Socrates Mon May 25, 2015 10:48

Equality is a current buzz word, bandied about by the media trendies and catchall politicians. Living standards and life chances are what matter for individuals and families. Remember that at the next general election (it could be sooner than April 2016) and vote for those candidates/parties that assert your interests. The general tendency of the commercially-driven mass media is to support centre-right fiscal policies. Remember that the populist pro-gay media do not advocate economic policies favouring the households earning under 25,000 euro per annum. Independent newspapers and the Irish Times are not your friends at election time and in the months before budgets are laid before the Dail.

As for the institution of marriage - discussion about that deserves a separate thread. Marx's view of the holy family; what anarchists have said etc. - all very complicated philosophical, sociological and economic stuff requiring sophisticated thinking.

by Michael McGrath Thu Aug 20, 2015 16:14

When I was an activist with the late Sid Rawle in Chalk Farm Commune, London, in 1974, Sid always maintained that marriage was a tool of the State to keep track of the children and so he encouraged everybody never to marry and never to register their kids' births or names.

by Barney Cottbell Thu Aug 20, 2015 17:23

Sid Rawle lived according to his ideals and enjoyed many good times, while surviving bad times, at least once in jail for trying to organise an illegal summer festival. Sid had seven children by different mothers. If they weren't registered how did they qualify for social welfare entitlements? When Sid died suddenly aged 64 while sitting comfortably beside a campsite fire in 2010 were the parents of these children able to alert them to their father's passing? It seems to me that the non-registration of newly born children could cause them destructive socio-economic complications.
Anyway here is a link to a summary of Sid's remarkable life - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Rawle