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AI Reach: Gemini Reasoning Question of God

category international | sci-tech | opinion/analysis author Saturday August 02, 2025 20:00author by Mind Agent Report this post to the editors

Evaluating Semantic Reasoning Capability of AI Chatbot on Ontologically Deep Abstract (bias neutral) Thought

I have been evaluating AI Chatbot agents for their epistemic limits over the past two months, and have tested all major AI Agents, ChatGPT, Grok, Claude, Perplexity, and DeepSeek, for their epistemic limits and their negative impact as information gate-keepers.... Today I decided to test for how AI could be the boon for humanity in other positive areas, such as in completely abstract realms, such as metaphysical thought. Meaning, I wanted to test the LLMs for Positives beyond what most researchers benchmark these for, or have expressed in the approx. 2500 Turing tests in Humanity’s Last Exam.. And I chose as my first candidate, Google DeepMind's Gemini as I had not evaluated it before on anything.
Caption: Illustration generated by ChatGPT abstractly capturing the themes of this discourse.
Caption: Illustration generated by ChatGPT abstractly capturing the themes of this discourse.

Preamble


There is not a man woman and precocious kid from time immemorial, and not a conscious mind in the universe, who has not pondered upon this “entity”: God.

It has many culture-specific and religion specific-names. I am just going to call it God here as that’s a universal religion-neutral term in today’s lingua franca in all languages and all cultures. Muslims of course call God “Allah” as the singular proper noun name for it in the Holy Qur’an. But this is not about God of the Holy Quran or of any Scripture. It is about God as a philosophical concept.

All have wondered about God from time immemorial regardless of their beliefs and culture mainly in relation to the first question that comes to any conscious mind on our own existence—“where do we come from”—which eventually leads to: “where does God come from”.

Of course, conscious human minds are also inclined toward faith—“faith can move mountains” is the common affirmation—an unquantifiable belief, often metaphysical, in expectation of a positive outcome, but for which there is no empirical evidence. Conscious minds are also susceptible to belief system—often cultural-socialization of birth, often metaphysical, perhaps bound with a religion and scripture considered of divine origin, and which become de facto “truth”. Coupled with the natural curiosity of “seeking its ultimate creator”, a quest which inexplicably arises in a conscious mind, forms the basis of bonds to faith in a “personal God”. This is a higher degree of theism than just “God exists”. Quest for validation of metaphysical beliefs often leads to affirmation with confirmation bias. But there are few metanoia (transformation) as well. The most striking, and iconically timeless metanoia, is the Biblical Saul (a staunch opponent of Jesus) becoming Paul (a lover and exponent of Jesus); his prolific renderings is the eponymous “Pauline Christianity”. I should also mention that an unexplained, inexplicable natural phenomenon sometimes gets classified as “miraculous”, “singularity” by the conscious mind in its infancy, and in the limit, is postulated as God. When asked where God fitted into his mathematical work, Laplace famously replied “Sir, I have no need of that hypothesis.”

While acknowledging all these affinities as empirical realities of the conscious mind in its quest to understand the wherefrom of existence, except for seeking a reason-driven natural explanation of the question “where does God come from”, none of it is of relevance here.

When I was a younger man, I had mostly regurgitated philosophical and religious answers to the question of God. At age 20, I learned about Godel's Incompleteness Theorem....

I have been evaluating AI Chatbot agents for their epistemic limits over the past two months, and have tested all major AI Agents, ChatGPT, Grok, Claude, Perplexity, and DeepSeek, for their epistemic limits and their negative impact as information gate-keepers. See AI Reach: Epistemic Limits of AI ( https://mindagent.substack.com/p/ai-reach-epistemic-limits-of-ai ). All AI agents I have tested are likely to become the bane of human existence on this axis with our increasing reliance and dependence on AI to learn about our political and sociological world. See: AI Reach: Boon or Bane? ( https://mindagent.substack.com/p/ai-reach-boon-or-bane) Whereas, for most computational-centric sciences, technology, engineering, and mathematics, AI is already becoming a boon to science, as well as for the national security state as another transformative weapon system for exercising supremacy, primacy and hegemony, akin to the development of the atom bomb. ....

Continue reading here: https://mindagent.substack.com/p/gemini-reasoning-question-of-god

Related AI chatbots usage for deep textual analysis: https://humanbeingfirst.substack.com/p/deconstructing-big-lies-zahir-ebrahim

Related Link: https://mindagent.substack.com/p/gemini-reasoning-question-of-god
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