FF Lord Mayor condones lap dancing, nudity and homosexuality

by Seáinín Tue Jul 29, 2003 22:46

Things were sone properly in the old days.

by iosaf Tue Jul 29, 2003 15:56

maybe the good law and order fans of Ireland do not want to be reminded but between 1922 and 1974
over 200,000 Irish citizens were born in Mary Magdelene homes. These homes run by nuns as indentured labour camps for girls who got pregnant before they got married finally ended in 1974 with the chainging of adoption laws in Ireland.
The development of lap top bars shares much with the development of Dublin as a stag-night destination which was primarily the idea of FF/FG/PD politicains who wanted to put Dublin on the European map. It also resulted in the highest infection rate for syphilis in Europe.
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Well done to the itchy and scratchys!

by law and order supporter Tue Jul 29, 2003 15:44

There was no sex in Ireland before Gay Byrne, now the place is a den of corruption, nudity and vices of all sorts. Its time to start making this stuff illiegal again and start banning all such activities fortwith.

by simon Tue Jul 29, 2003 12:48

In know this is going to cause a rukus and its off topic (its just somebody mentioned it above). but ive been pondering the bin tax. I know it appears as a double taxation but hasnt the cost of waste management risen sharply over the last few years. the slow but progressive introduction of household recycling and largeer scale recycling projects.

I havent paid because i dont see the waste system fully worthy of the expense but were it a far enhanced (close looped systems, broader recycling, community composting etc) it obviosly going to cost more and wouldnt have a problem paying. the consumer should be part of the polluter pays principle (a polluter pays principle based on equity etc though). Id like to hear other views.

by Seáinín Tue Jul 29, 2003 03:43

White Tribe?? Are we seeing a KKK type organisation springing up in Ireland?

by Mags Mon Jul 28, 2003 18:21

Royston has been making a bit of noise in the papers too giving out about the amount of 'management fees' residents of apartment blocks have to pay. He has obviously identified the relatively affluent in apartments as his consituency, probably why he keeps stressing his 'youth'.

However he totally supports the Bin tax and when challenged about this at a public meeting in East Wall (where he lives) he stated that his loyalty was not to the community but to the Fianna Fail party.

by iosaf Mon Jul 28, 2003 18:18

¿opinions?
(1)
Lapdancing as a professional activity dates from Burlesque, and shares a common cultural history with erotic dance throughout the world.
(2)
Lapdancing as a profession is activity that demeans women reifies sexuality and is insulting and demeaning and has nothing whatsover to do with eroticism and dance.

I reckon sitting in the privacy of your home with someone walking about on the kitchen formica shaking her/his arse at you could be considered fun, adult and a bit of a jolly. I could even imagine fun nights spent with a close group of friends and all types of dare or forfeit activity.

But I presume that lapdancers are not engaging in the height of their career as dancers and generally desperate for money as the poor tossers are desperate for "that special relief".

Ireland would be a much more wonderful place and like really _"liberal"_ if we had all done a spot of lapdancing or equivalent at some stage.

¿how can you tell the dancer from the dance?

by Alex - Fine Gael Mon Jul 28, 2003 18:10

That person is not a member of Fine Gael, or Geal as its put.

Whats more dangerous is the attention given to the Lord Mayor's outdated comments and not to the real issues.

A report issued tommorow by the Irish Conflict Institute states that in Northern Ireland 4 out of 5 people who are gay have personally experienced hate crime because of their sexual orientation. Thats one of the real issues that are ignored by media who are more concerned about what the Lord Mayor says and not what he does not say.

Alex
Young Fine Gael member. Limerick

by Quingles Mon Jul 28, 2003 17:56

The Boy wonder Brady is best ignored as he is only seeking to raise his profile so he can slime his way into the Dail courtesy of Bertie's robots in the next election. Brady has been using his newly granted posion of Lord Mayor to mouth off about everything and anything that will give him some attention. Witness his plea to the filth to make Dublin safe for the WEF by dealing with the "anarchists" threatening Dublin.

He popped up out of nowhere for the 1999 Corpo elections with an expensive campaign and the meaningless slogan "Royston Brady - a new face for a new millenium". Great. His manouverings for power since then have been carefully choreographed by the Drumcondra Mafia and he will be planted into some constituency, probably Dublin Central, in the next election to be carried into power on Berties coat tails. No need for grass roots work or local initiatives for our boy to get elected, just contacts, media manipulation and money. Still I suppose that's democracy.

by aunty blueshirt Mon Jul 28, 2003 17:26

Ireland of the 1950 is dead, Playboy magazine
is allowed to be sold. We are not going back to banning and repressing things are taken for granted in most liberal democracies, this includes the petty Gardai harassment that has been going on unreported in the media against foreign women working in these clubs.

by Free spirit Mon Jul 28, 2003 17:13

FF, or anyone else have my support in defending Gay rights. A persons sexuality is their own decision and a basic human right.

However, I would like to get some progressive perspectives (not from our FG Troll) on attitudes to lapdancing clubs.

by Troll Spotter Mon Jul 28, 2003 14:12

If a member of the opposition party can not spell the name of their party it does not inspire confidence, me thinks it is a troll, trollus crappus.

It's Fine Gael!

by Glen Mon Jul 28, 2003 13:29

I thought they were more interested in investigating the criminal activities of those people who owned and ran the clubs themselves rather than worrying about the activities of a few harmless tossers ogling naked women as they walked around the stage shaking their arse.

by Anonymous Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:58

So should homosexuals be locked up then?

by lone gunman Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:42

time for a finna failer to suggest somthing sensible.Whats the problem with being ripped off to watch some good looking woman who knows how to use her body to make money?