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category national | indymedia ireland | feature author Thursday January 29, 2004 20:30author by Indymedia Ireland Editorial Group - Indymedia Ireland Report this post to the editors

Bzzt . . . Delete . . . Delete . . . Delete . . .

In order to clarify the editorial guidelines used by the Indymedia Ireland collective, we are publishing them as we currently understand them to operate. This is a work in progress, which is the result of many arguments over the past few months on the Indymedia Ireland lists. Input, commentary and criticism from users of the site are welcome on this thread, and this will be taken into account before the guidelines are formalised.

Indymedia Ireland Editorial Guidelines: Indymedia Ireland is built on the foundation of an open and democratic newswire. We want to see and hear real stories, news, and opinions from users of the site around the country. Anybody can post a story, or a comment on a story to Indymedia. While we struggle to maintain the newswire as a completely open forum we do monitor it and remove posts. In general, posts may be removed for any of the following reasons:

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 #   Title   Author   Date 
   what about the Peoples front of judea     Brian    Fri Jan 30, 2004 00:45 
   Resectioning, etc.     R Isible    Fri Jan 30, 2004 01:28 
   15 and 16 are totally wrong and unjustified     Mr Disco    Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:07 
   SWP     Mr Soya Bean Man    Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:14 
   deletions     pat c    Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:20 
   This whole malarky     jeff    Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:45 
   Nothing new here     Chekov    Fri Jan 30, 2004 13:34 
   Slow news day?     T. Brazil    Fri Jan 30, 2004 14:58 
   Purpose of this thread     R Isible    Fri Jan 30, 2004 17:55 
 10   Oh please...     jeff    Fri Jan 30, 2004 18:46 
 11   Oh     jeff    Fri Jan 30, 2004 18:50 
 12   Guidelines have helped Indymedia     John Meehan    Sat Jan 31, 2004 00:00 
 13   Indymedia stewards have become complacent: Stories critical of the SWP are being censored     Dave O    Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:59 
 14   When a record is broken..     David    Sat Jan 31, 2004 13:53 
 15   Lack of consistency in censorship     pedantic bore    Sat Jan 31, 2004 14:09 
 16   Its not liable if its true     David    Sat Jan 31, 2004 14:44 
 17   Question -- government control here?     Mike    Sat Jan 31, 2004 15:26 
 18   Selective examples     N Lynch    Sat Jan 31, 2004 17:15 
 19   Does this help?     Dave O    Sat Jan 31, 2004 17:38 
 20   This might help, but I doubt it     Dave O    Sat Jan 31, 2004 17:48 
 21   Responses:     Chekov - 1 of Indymedia Ireland Editorial Group    Sat Jan 31, 2004 17:54 
 22   Battle Fatigue indeed     Eamonn (1 of Editors)    Sat Jan 31, 2004 17:54 
 23   The most Substantial story . . . .     eamonn    Sat Jan 31, 2004 18:36 
 24   Resection????     Dave O    Sat Jan 31, 2004 20:26 
 25   Dave, do you have any political affiliations?     David    Sat Jan 31, 2004 21:01 
 26   No, none, niet.     Dave O    Sat Jan 31, 2004 21:21 
 27   Dave O, can i interest you in joining the SWP?     Badman    Sun Feb 01, 2004 02:24 
 28   Hey, Badman, you've shown yourself to be pretty adept at talking shite on more than one occasion     Blocky    Sun Feb 01, 2004 15:21 
 29   Actually Blocky     Badman    Sun Feb 01, 2004 16:24 
 30   Response to Jeff     R Isible    Sun Feb 01, 2004 20:26 
 31   Age-ism     Grey Blocker    Mon Feb 02, 2004 01:54 
 32   On libel...     Slarti    Mon Feb 02, 2004 02:10 
 33   I'd just like to point out that the Dalek in the photo is a 2nd generation post DAVROS version.     iosaf    Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:30 
 34   it's the little lights on top. generation 1 - more mutant, little blue flashing lights, grey armour.     -fan.    Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:36 
 35   Suggested Addition to Deletion Policy     Leon    Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:48 
 36   That figures     Freddy    Thu Feb 05, 2004 13:36 
 37   Editors have their work cut out     hs    Thu Feb 05, 2004 20:07 
 38   It's not so bad hs     Chekov    Fri Feb 06, 2004 02:34 
 39   Cross-Postings - Comments on Editorial Policy - Petitions - Event Anouncements     Anonymous    Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:24 
 40   Identities     Orla Ni Chomhrai    Wed Feb 11, 2004 20:16 
 41   Orla, thanks for the suggestion.     R Isible    Wed Feb 11, 2004 20:42 
 42   "Anonymous", you raise some difficult points     R Isible    Wed Feb 11, 2004 21:05 
 43   not denouncing     hs    Thu Feb 12, 2004 17:19 
 44   R Isible     journalist    Fri Mar 26, 2004 19:44 
 45   here here     pc    Fri Mar 26, 2004 20:31 
 46   Hear! Hear!     Stop patronising    Fri Mar 26, 2004 20:34 
 47   Patronising, how to do it:     R Isible    Fri Mar 26, 2004 21:07 
 48   R Isible     journalist    Fri Mar 26, 2004 21:26 
 49   Stick to the point     R Isible    Fri Mar 26, 2004 21:29 
 50   Patronising     Coward hiding behind anonymity    Fri Mar 26, 2004 21:38 
 51   Enough     journalist    Fri Mar 26, 2004 21:39 
 52   PS     journalist    Fri Mar 26, 2004 21:42 
 53   risisble     pc    Fri Mar 26, 2004 21:43 
 54   ...     pc    Fri Mar 26, 2004 21:47 
 55   Journalist     R Isible    Fri Mar 26, 2004 21:50 
 56   R Isible     journalist    Fri Mar 26, 2004 21:56 
 57   Last response to troll posting as "pc", "troll", "coward hiding"     R Isible    Fri Mar 26, 2004 22:02 
 58   insincere!!!???????     journalist    Fri Mar 26, 2004 22:08 
 59   and of course.... sensibly     pc    Fri Mar 26, 2004 22:16 
 60   Indymedia is not a bulletin board     Anthony    Sat Mar 27, 2004 00:16 
 61   pc     Browser    Sat Mar 27, 2004 06:21 


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