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Discuss: The Regime Change in Iraq as an End in Itself

category international | anti-war / imperialism | opinion/analysis author Tuesday March 16, 2004 16:56author by Harpo G Report this post to the editors

Leave your politics at the door

Forget about Bush. Forget about Blair. Forget about oil. Forget about the motivation for the war.

Is Iraq a better place now that Saddam has been ousted and a replacement regime is being put in place?

The answer is not yet clear... but time will tell.

The occupying force is still there so we do not yet have a true and fair picture of what Iraq is like now compared to under Saddam and his family.

Here are some questions to consider when the time is right;

(i) has quality of life improved for the majority of Iraqi families?

(ii) are the majority of Iraqis more 'free' or less 'free' now than two years ago?

(iii) is the rest of the world (a) safer or (b) less safe since the war?

(iv) is the rest of the world (a) more free or (b) less free since the war?

(v) did Saddam deserve to be ousted / asassinated / voted out / otherwise removed from office?

The end DOES NOT justify the means or the argument. But that does not mean that we, as free-thinkers, cannot discuss the positive or negative outcomes.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Not news, but I'll respond, against my better judgement     Free thinker    Tue Mar 16, 2004 17:07 
   Not News, but....     Bogman    Tue Mar 16, 2004 17:18 
   I don't understand...     Harpo G    Tue Mar 16, 2004 17:21 
   today people hugged each other.     scarecrow    Tue Mar 16, 2004 17:38 
   Harpo as in the Marx Bros. right?     kokomero    Tue Mar 16, 2004 18:35 
   To be fair, compare with Iraq pre-Gulf War     Eoin Dubsky    Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:44 
   Despite the fall of the hated dictator, Saddam Hussein, quality of life has plummeted for the majori     SP member    Wed Mar 17, 2004 17:15 
   Oh please.     Phuq Hedd    Thu Mar 18, 2004 01:46 
   End doesn't justifty the means     Tufty    Thu Mar 18, 2004 13:49 


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