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Independent Republican Candidates Take A Fall

category national | politics / elections | opinion/analysis author Wednesday May 11, 2005 10:56author by Jarlaith Kelly Report this post to the editors

Barry's no Paddy Power

An article by Barry, Thursday 21 April, predicted an "interesting diversion" would be provided by the "independent" republican candidates standing in the Norther elections. However, his soothsaying seems to be a little erroneous. Polish that crystal ball mate.

The premonitions, forcasts, ominous forebodings and betting dockets of our "independent" republican comrades can now be consigned to the waste paper basket of, erm, non-history, as Barry's stable of republican fillies and stallions for the Northern Local Elections have all fallen at the first fence.

We will now cast our minds back to the nebulous, halcyon times of April 21 2005. Were you surfing Indymedia that day? Did you witness the greatest blunder of electoral predictioneering of our times. Barry, in his dissertation on nasty Shinners and their impending comeuppance, Independent Republican Candidates Take A Stand
(http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=69501&search_text=independent%20republican%20candidates), had predicted a number of successes for the disenchanted and disgruntled.

What follows is their names and their by no means uniform fates:


"Sitting Newry and Mourne councillor Martin Cunningham recently parted company from Sinn Fein in a bitter dispute concerning republican prisoners." – Eliminated: Sinn Féin gains.

"Also standing in Antrim Town are Aine Gribbon and Tish Murray." - Eliminated: SF elected three.

"In North Antrim well known local activist Bertie Shaw is standing as an independent republican in the loyalist stronghold of Larne." Eliminated.

"Another prominent candidate standing in Armagh City is former blanketman and H Block hungerstriker John Nixon. A commited socialist and former INLA POW. " - Well, whatdaya know, eliminated.

"In Co. Tyrone independent republican Paul Gallagher is standing in the nationalist stronghold of Strabane," ELIMINATED, "while in Co. Fermanagh Kevin Barry Nolan also stands on an independent republican ticket " - ELIMINATED!

"Finally, a hard fought battle is expected in Derry city as local republican Gary Donnelly takes a stand in the cityside ward which encompasses the Creggan and Bogside." ELIMINATED!!

"They represent the forgotten constituency." Indeed they do.

"It now seems that this constituency is larger and more widespread than many had assumed, simply due to the fact it had been successfully kept out of sight." very successfully indeed it would seem. A pyrrhic victory.

"An interesting diversion from the tug of war within the constitutional nationalist establishment of Sinn Fein and the SDLP." Well, for me it was, but did anyone else notice?

For those of you appalled at my triumphalism, it must be noted that rubbing salt into the wounds is standard electoral practice.

I know that Barry readily admits that there are committed socialists within SF, although he (rightly) points that they are not representative of the entire party at times, but would he not concede that, to invoke a bawdy proverb, it might be better to be in the tent pissing out, than outside pissing in?

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 #   Title   Author   Date 
 1   Cunningham, the 'Dissident'     South Down Chuck    Wed May 11, 2005 14:29 
 2   Interesting post....     Chuckle    Wed May 11, 2005 15:25 
 3   No objection     South Down Chuck    Wed May 11, 2005 15:37 
 4   ok rude dude     GERRY ARMANI    Wed May 11, 2005 15:53 
 5   sin fein     tiocfaidh armani    Wed May 11, 2005 16:02 
 6   Insufferable twits     Jarlaith Kelly    Wed May 11, 2005 17:50 
 7   Irish republican Martin Cunningham's side of the story     Saoirse Ni Dhonaill    Wed May 11, 2005 21:29 
 8   independent republicans     Sean G    Wed May 11, 2005 22:25 
 9   sad     sad    Wed May 11, 2005 22:38 
 10   sinn fein, republican working class heroes?     EX-SINN FEIN SUPPORTER    Wed May 11, 2005 22:57 
 11   Sinn Fein & Democracy Be Damned: Martin Cunningham Interviewed     Dearbhla    Wed May 11, 2005 23:10 
 12   South Down Republican     Real South Down Republican    Wed May 11, 2005 23:48 
 13   Jarlaith - are you not proving Barry's point?     seedot    Thu May 12, 2005 00:44 
 14   Pissing out of the tent     Barry    Thu May 12, 2005 01:28 
 15   A laugh     jarlath    Thu May 12, 2005 02:03 
 16   Now Ex SinnFein     Liam    Thu May 12, 2005 09:35 
 17   Cunningham posts     South Down Chuck    Thu May 12, 2005 11:31 
 18   Well, this is interesting anyway     Jarlaith Kelly    Thu May 12, 2005 11:41 
 19   Do as I say, not as I do     lala    Thu May 12, 2005 12:49 
 20   Martin Cunningham     Dearbhla    Thu May 12, 2005 14:18 
 21   Last post     South Down Chuck    Thu May 12, 2005 16:22 
 22   We are serious about progressive debate     Real South Down Republican    Thu May 12, 2005 16:39 
 23   Martin Cunningham - Contempt prior to investigation????     Dearbhla    Thu May 12, 2005 17:34 
 24   South Down Chuck     Sean2002    Thu May 12, 2005 18:07 
 25   Martin Cunningham     Chris    Thu May 12, 2005 19:21 
 26   sinn fein fundraising     in america    Thu May 12, 2005 21:29 
 27   Martin Cunningham - Gary Donnelly     jim    Thu May 12, 2005 21:30 
 28   Adams is a millionaire....     Laughing all the way to the bank    Thu May 12, 2005 22:39 
 29   Last post South Down Chuck     John    Thu May 12, 2005 23:40 
 30   Last Post South Down Chuck     Pat Johnston    Fri May 13, 2005 00:03 
 31   DUP Transfers     Ciara    Fri May 13, 2005 00:03 
 32   South Down Chuck     None given afraid    Fri May 13, 2005 01:37 
 33   Ruffling Sinn Fein     Big Seamy    Fri May 13, 2005 02:19 
 34   Dealing for Donnelly     Dessie    Fri May 13, 2005 02:46 
 35   sinn fein sellouts     sinn fein change yer name    Fri May 13, 2005 04:23 
 36   The cut and thrust of Dessies debating technique     Barry    Fri May 13, 2005 09:57 
 37   Responding to Too Afraid     Spud    Fri May 13, 2005 10:57 
 38   Victory To The $hinners     Ciara    Fri May 13, 2005 11:30 
 39   Chuck Problems     Aine    Fri May 13, 2005 12:10 
 40   Respect to Independent Irish Republicans     Former Republican POW    Fri May 13, 2005 18:07 
 41   I think thats what they call     Barry    Sat May 14, 2005 01:23 
 42   Living in fear     Kevin    Sat May 14, 2005 10:56 
 43   Chuck the truth     Michael    Sat May 14, 2005 11:20 
 44   Sale Of The Century     Sean    Sat May 14, 2005 11:27 
 45   Party line against Independent Republican thinking     Bootsy    Sat May 14, 2005 15:55 
 46   Sinn Fein leadership not republicans     Cunningham voter South Down    Sat May 14, 2005 17:01 
 47   Back to the Good Old Days.     realist    Sun May 15, 2005 02:06 
 48   Wolfe Tone and Protestant patriots     Barry    Sun May 15, 2005 04:19 
 49   Guns     P O'Neill    Sun May 15, 2005 04:33 
 50   Antrim and New sinn Fein Repression     Ciaran    Sun May 15, 2005 12:48 
 51   Equitable Society     Roisin    Sun May 15, 2005 12:55 
 52   Jumping the gun     Barry    Sun May 15, 2005 13:21 
 53   Sinn Fein Antrim     Tony    Sun May 15, 2005 13:40 
 54   Antrim Town     William Orr    Sun May 15, 2005 14:34 
 55   Shame on you Tony     A Friend    Sun May 15, 2005 14:46 
 56   SHAME     Barry    Sun May 15, 2005 15:07 
 57   Barry     P O'Neill    Sun May 15, 2005 20:03 
 58   Nationalist , Me ??     Barry    Sun May 15, 2005 20:39 
 59   Sinn Fein Peace makers Antrim     Tony    Sun May 15, 2005 21:14 
 60   Gerry Magee ( E T )     Bill    Sun May 15, 2005 21:44 
 61   If you cant beat them , join them     Barry    Mon May 16, 2005 12:16 
 62   Barry i'll rephrase     P O'Neill    Mon May 16, 2005 18:33 
 63   How did Meehan lose his seat.     Curious    Tue May 17, 2005 11:01 
 64   leonard     Barry    Tue May 17, 2005 15:05 
 65   whoops... left out a bit     Barry    Tue May 17, 2005 15:10 
 66   "The Bearded One"     realist    Tue May 17, 2005 22:18 
 67   His religion does not concern me .     Barry    Tue May 17, 2005 23:55 
 68   Ceasefire general     John    Wed May 18, 2005 00:20 
 69   Orange Anglo Saxon Protestantism     Celine    Wed May 18, 2005 00:29 
 70   aha !!     Barry    Wed May 18, 2005 01:11 
 71   Garvaghy Road     Tucker    Wed May 18, 2005 14:47 
 72   Graceys dead alright, but...     Barry    Wed May 18, 2005 17:10 
 73   Barry sees sense     Realist    Wed May 18, 2005 23:52 
 74   Negotiation Vital     Real South Down Republican    Thu May 19, 2005 00:52 
 75   3 phones is correct     Interesting    Thu May 19, 2005 11:09 
 76   United Ireland     realist    Thu May 19, 2005 19:04 
 77   youre deranged     Barry    Thu May 19, 2005 19:17 
 78   Think so?     realist    Fri May 20, 2005 00:52 
 79   AND...........     realist    Fri May 20, 2005 00:53 
 80   No I didnt     Barry    Fri May 20, 2005 02:21 
 81   Garvaghy Road     Lower Falls (Wack)    Fri May 20, 2005 12:45 
 82   Caitroina 0 Eddie Won     Paul    Sun May 22, 2005 01:18 
 83   Slan Abhaile Caitriona     Hard core Irish Republican    Sun May 22, 2005 13:48 


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