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British Police used "banned bullets" in July "shoot to kill"

category international | crime and justice | other press author Wednesday November 16, 2005 15:42author by iosaf Report this post to the editors

Latest twist in the killing of De Menezes on July 22 in london at Kennington tube station.

The Daily Telegraph has revealed that the police who killed Jean Charles de Menezes used _illegal_ "dum dum" bullets.

["Modern hollow point bullets are descendants of the expanding "dum dum" ammunition created by the British in an arsenal of the same name near Calcutta, in India, at the end of the 19th century and outlawed under the Hague Declaration of 1899.

The bullets, which expand and splinter on impact, were available to officers taking part in Operation Kratos, the national police drive against suspected suicide bombers which has been described as a "shoot to kill" policy."]

article :-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/16/nmenez16.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/11/16/ixportaltop.html
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2251712005

related news, Ian Blair the British Police chief has said he wants a public debate on the shoot to kill policy.
http://www.channel4.com/news/content/news-storypage.jsp?id=1242224
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2249412005
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4441112.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,16518,1643599,00.html

And CofE bishop of southwark (south london) Tom Butler has defended shoot to kill on BBC radio 4.describing such killings as a lesser of two evils. "Sometimes we have to judge between two things that are wrong to produce the best result,"
...
"Obviously, killing somebody is never a right thing to do, but if it prevents many other people being killed, it may be the only thing to do."
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L15404719.htm

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   so what?     right wing    Wed Nov 16, 2005 16:07 
   re so what?     booms    Wed Nov 16, 2005 17:28 
   The difference     Joe Public    Wed Nov 16, 2005 23:32 
   you can read all of Ian Blair's speech at link.     iosaf    Thu Nov 17, 2005 13:49 
   The difference     Ali H.    Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:21 
   the UK Crown prosecution service is considering charging Ian Blair     iosaf    Sun Jun 04, 2006 17:35 
   To the Morons     ROOSTER    Mon Jun 05, 2006 06:36 
   A moron is a moron is a moron     MichaelY    Mon Jun 05, 2006 13:47 
   rooster     anon    Mon Jun 05, 2006 13:53 
 10   MichaelY and anon     rooster    Tue Jun 06, 2006 00:16 
 11   er Hello you said it     anon    Tue Jun 06, 2006 17:23 
 12   at the time of the shooting     rooster    Tue Jun 06, 2006 22:05 
 13   nonsense     Barry    Wed Jun 07, 2006 03:11 
 14   not likely as he was pinned to the ground and they were pumped into the back of his head     rooster    Wed Jun 07, 2006 05:44 
 15   Read what you've written rooster     anon    Wed Jun 07, 2006 06:09 


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