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category national | politics / elections | feature author Tuesday May 29, 2007 01:48author by ronan - WSM - (pers capacity!) Report this post to the editors

Croutons, ninjas and posterboys, an anarchist's election '07

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As the dust recedes from the ballot box and the parties alternately lick their wounds and rest on their laurels it’s worth having a think about its consequences for the left in general and the radical left in particular...Sinking a lot of work into achieving an especially high soapbox isn’t that much use when people aren’t listening. If we want our arguments to be heard we need to make them from the furnace where our politics have been forged, the heart of the struggles of the people.

The small parties generally got a drubbing this time around, and of course, the left wing parties are all very much on the small side. The only winners are the centre right civil war parties of Fianna Fail and Fine Gael, if one is to judge political mood by elections then the left wing is in a sorry state all around. Despite anarchists talking up electoral non-participation this was one of the biggest turn outs in years, people turned up and turned right.

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Which is not of course to say they should have voted left, Labour the biggest party on the ‘left’ showed how much its left wing credentials matter to it by entering into a pre-election pact with Fine Gael, the law and order party, as in more laws, more orders. Even so, a high vote for Labour or Sinn Fein might have indicated some degree of dissatisfaction with the current state of things, not so.

What was probably most disappointing for lefties however was the failure of Joe Higgins to be returned to his seat in Dublin West and the non-election of a number of other ideological socialists such as Clare Daly, or Joan Collins (thankfully we’ve been spared the embarrassment of a SWPie in Dáil Eireann and the prospect of dealing with SWP activists with even more inflated sense of self worth). We all enjoyed and appreciated Joe’s never-ending one man stand against injustice and tyranny in Dail Eireann, the sole defender of honesty amid a cauldron of deceit, a crouton of decency in a thick soup of lies. It’s very possible that electoral district re-jigging is to blame for this defeat, but it throws into relief the difficulties of electoralism as a political strategy for groups who (theoretically) see parliament as at odds with the prospect of social change.

There are some purely practical problems that make socialist adventures in electoralism a slow starter, a lack of big corporate donations is probably the most obvious, but there’s also an unsympathetic media to deal with and an electorate seemingly bent on re-enacting the Civil War every four years. Low funding means no billboards, and few glossy posters or leaflets, it means no imported American consultants and no press handlers. But behind these practical reasons there’s a more basic reason why socialists are only rarely going to get anything but ulcers from the electoral process in this country. If you’ll let them, members of socialist organisations that promote electoralism argue for it principally as a tactic, they’re not deceived, real change comes from below, they’re using the Dail as a platform to destroy itself and so on. While such an argument might seem convincing the chance of getting your candidate in always has to be balanced against the vast amount of time and money spent in campaigning for him or her, especially when a constituency re-jig might toss them out again come next time round.

The crucial point however, is that in asking someone to vote for an anti-capitalist candidate you’re asking them to do so principally on an ideological level if the gesture is to have any meaning at all. But most people don’t want a purely ideological representative in parliament, any socialists who don’t combine their ideology with a lot of hard work for their constituents are unlikely to get the time of day next time around. So already there’s a trade off involved, a lot of work to get elected, a lot of work to stay elected and then you can have a platform to speak from. One’s tempted to ask how effective this trade off is: if the candidate is voted for not because the electorate identify with his/her politics but because s/he does a lot of constituency work this might imply that spreading socialism from above probably isn’t so effective. Perhaps I’m wrong, perhaps there is a sizeable cadre of Marxist-Leninist ninjas in Dublin West sharpening their knives and preparing to attack in a flurry of paper selling and shuriken throwing. Probably not though.

To be honest, I think that these socialists have got electoralism the wrong way round, in the ideological supermarket most people aren’t going to pick up socialism simply because it’s not very practical. Once most people have left college they’re not particularly interested in ideology, they’re interested in getting on with life and fitting as much fun as possible into the cracks between working life and sleep. Socialist (or anarchist for that matter) consciousness isn’t particularly relevant for the most part, it only becomes relevant during certain periods of struggle and conflict, in the workplace, in the community or even on a national level. Sinking a lot of work into achieving an especially high soapbox isn’t that much use when people aren’t listening, if we want our arguments to be heard we need to make them from the furnace where our politics have been forged, the heart of the struggles of the people.

Related Link: http://www.wsm.ie/election07

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   A couple of points     Joe    Mon May 28, 2007 12:34 
   A few caveats     Chekov    Mon May 28, 2007 13:12 
   Political class struggle.     Malcolm X    Mon May 28, 2007 14:08 
   immigrant workers disenfranchised     tom eile    Mon May 28, 2007 15:23 
   I remember the 80's     Joe    Mon May 28, 2007 16:50 
   a slice of socialism     irish socialist network pizza company    Mon May 28, 2007 17:32 
   Re: Joe     FF Voter    Mon May 28, 2007 19:48 
   whats that now     Joe    Mon May 28, 2007 20:32 
   Delighted     TPT    Tue May 29, 2007 03:42 
 10   WSM Analysis     SP member    Tue May 29, 2007 10:07 
 11   Polls     Mr Hiphiphurrah    Tue May 29, 2007 10:30 
 12   What's left after election 2007     John Bowman (not)    Tue May 29, 2007 11:24 
 13   ah now, lads!     irish socialist networker    Tue May 29, 2007 11:48 
 14   Facts, myths and failed predictions     Old leftie    Tue May 29, 2007 13:39 
 15   Re: SP member     Ois    Tue May 29, 2007 13:44 
 16   Congrats     TPT    Tue May 29, 2007 13:53 
 17   correction     textual analyst    Tue May 29, 2007 14:07 
 18   Old leftie     Dorothy Gale    Tue May 29, 2007 14:11 
 19   excuse me?     textual analyst    Tue May 29, 2007 14:11 
 20   Actually they did..     e    Tue May 29, 2007 14:19 
 21   now now     old leftie    Tue May 29, 2007 14:21 
 22   link?     old leftie    Tue May 29, 2007 14:25 
 23   Good Idea- FF Voter     Dave.H    Tue May 29, 2007 14:25 
 24   Fighting Elections     hs    Tue May 29, 2007 14:34 
 25   Self-appointed experts     Abie Philbin Bowman (not)    Tue May 29, 2007 14:44 
 26   Old Leftie     Dorothy Gale    Tue May 29, 2007 14:44 
 27   to hs     old leftie    Tue May 29, 2007 14:59 
 28   Smith transfers     seedot    Tue May 29, 2007 15:00 
 29   thanks     old leftie    Tue May 29, 2007 15:00 
 30   Old leftie     ISNer    Tue May 29, 2007 15:07 
 31   See Dot     Dorothy Gale    Tue May 29, 2007 15:15 
 32   ...................     old leftie    Tue May 29, 2007 15:16 
 33   Dorothy     seedot    Tue May 29, 2007 15:32 
 34   The elections     John O'Neill    Tue May 29, 2007 15:47 
 35   thank you     o    Tue May 29, 2007 15:52 
 36   John     textual analyst    Tue May 29, 2007 15:57 
 37   E     Dorothy Gale    Tue May 29, 2007 16:03 
 38   Gale     Wind-E    Tue May 29, 2007 16:13 
 39   Is John ISN suggesting that there was a WSM "spoil your vote" campaign?     R. Isible    Tue May 29, 2007 16:28 
 40   Election was a positive exercise in democracy     Floating voter    Tue May 29, 2007 16:29 
 41   lighten up     textual analyst    Tue May 29, 2007 16:30 
 42   Old Left-over     Colm Breathnach    Tue May 29, 2007 16:33 
 43   Reading between the lines     R. Isible    Tue May 29, 2007 16:35 
 44   no...but seriously     textual analyst    Tue May 29, 2007 16:43 
 45   HA, old leftie, unfortunately quite wrong     SPer    Tue May 29, 2007 16:50 
 46   Spoilt Votes     chekov    Tue May 29, 2007 16:51 
 47   oh well     old leftie    Tue May 29, 2007 16:52 
 48   God, you're killing me     R.Isble    Tue May 29, 2007 16:57 
 49   WSM and spoiling the vote     John O'Neill    Tue May 29, 2007 16:58 
 50   Wind E     Dorothy Gale    Tue May 29, 2007 17:15 
 51   The libertarian alternative?     Libertarian Infusion    Tue May 29, 2007 17:36 
 52   voting pact     Wind E    Tue May 29, 2007 17:41 
 53   ballyfermot     A    Tue May 29, 2007 17:51 
 54   Wind E     Dorothy Gale    Tue May 29, 2007 17:55 
 55   Sufficient expression of democratic free will?     Miriam Cotton    Tue May 29, 2007 19:19 
 56   ATT: Libertarian Infusion     ronan    Tue May 29, 2007 19:22 
 57   Good Debate     Shane O'Neill    Tue May 29, 2007 19:56 
 58   Also re: libertarian infusion     Ois    Tue May 29, 2007 20:12 
 59   Try Harder     Communard    Tue May 29, 2007 21:19 
 60   Dorothy Gale     Factchecker    Tue May 29, 2007 22:09 
 61   Leave Dorothy alone     seedot    Tue May 29, 2007 23:02 
 62   a mix up     eamon    Tue May 29, 2007 23:17 
 63   Bríd Smith's transfers     A bore    Wed May 30, 2007 00:34 
 64   seepeedee     Factchecker    Wed May 30, 2007 01:38 
 65   at last...     A Real Bore    Wed May 30, 2007 07:29 
 66   "Factchecker"     Dorothy Gale    Wed May 30, 2007 10:01 
 67   Spoling votes is not what anarchism is about     Sean Mallory    Wed May 30, 2007 10:19 
 68   The State     Confused    Wed May 30, 2007 10:31 
 69   Referenda     Joe    Wed May 30, 2007 10:46 
 70   Why do anarchists engage in constitutional referenda?     Chekov    Wed May 30, 2007 10:51 
 71   hmmm     socialist    Wed May 30, 2007 11:02 
 72   Response     Chekov    Wed May 30, 2007 11:12 
 73   yes but...     socialist    Wed May 30, 2007 11:25 
 74   Further analysis     John Bowman (not)    Wed May 30, 2007 12:16 
 75   The lies of the Smith & Collins Show     Jonah    Wed May 30, 2007 12:54 
 76   Jonah     Dorothy Gale    Wed May 30, 2007 13:07 
 77   McDowell's methods     Factchecker    Wed May 30, 2007 13:08 
 78   The Election Result and the future     Roger Cole    Wed May 30, 2007 13:31 
 79   Transfers and Elections     Dub    Wed May 30, 2007 13:41 
 80   "Factchecker"     Dorothy Gale    Wed May 30, 2007 13:42 
 81   European Election 09     Dub    Wed May 30, 2007 13:48 
 82   Comebacks     Jonah    Wed May 30, 2007 14:18 
 83   Give it a break Dub     Reminder    Wed May 30, 2007 14:38 
 84   As clear as a measurment from a "Barameter"     R. Isible    Wed May 30, 2007 15:00 
 85   To Dub     Chekov    Wed May 30, 2007 15:32 
 86   Elooktion     allyates    Wed May 30, 2007 16:02 
 87   The useful, the intelligent, the nonsensical and the ugly     MichaelY    Wed May 30, 2007 16:07 
 88   Michael Y     Dorothy Gale    Wed May 30, 2007 16:26 
 89   George Galloway     e - i'm back    Wed May 30, 2007 16:29 
 90   More factual inaccuracies...     Wind E    Wed May 30, 2007 16:40 
 91   e     Dorothy Galloway    Wed May 30, 2007 16:41 
 92   Wind E     Dorothy Gale    Wed May 30, 2007 16:47 
 93   Vitriol and envy are not political remedies for inactivity     MichaelY    Wed May 30, 2007 17:26 
 94   Michael Y     Dorothy Gale    Wed May 30, 2007 17:38 
 95   wAR , the election and the future of the left     Roger Cole    Wed May 30, 2007 18:48 
 96   To above post     allyates    Wed May 30, 2007 23:02 
 97   Making Socialism Relivent     Kieran O'Sullivan    Thu May 31, 2007 11:13 
 98   Change     Marcas MacCaoimhín    Thu May 31, 2007 12:11 
 99   'Change' - country or 'State' ?     Sharon .    Thu May 31, 2007 13:01 
 100   The libertarian alternative?     Libertarian Infusion    Thu May 31, 2007 14:03 
 101   On a more upbeat note     Fintan Lane    Thu May 31, 2007 14:05 
 102   Fintan...     Jolly Red Giant    Thu May 31, 2007 14:22 
 103   RE McGrath     E swp    Thu May 31, 2007 14:23 
 104   Sneaking Admiration     Dub    Thu May 31, 2007 14:25 
 105   Labour/M.D. Higgins "anti-war" record     Dub    Thu May 31, 2007 14:32 
 106   Dear oh dear     Fintan Lane    Thu May 31, 2007 14:34 
 107   IAWM question for Michael     Serious Sam    Thu May 31, 2007 15:48 
 108   FAO: Sharon     Marcas MacCaoimhín    Thu May 31, 2007 16:21 
 109   No reason for despair     No 11    Thu May 31, 2007 17:18 
 110   No 11     pat c    Thu May 31, 2007 17:42 
 111   War, elections and the future     Roger Cole    Thu May 31, 2007 18:09 
 112   A reply to Sharon...     Jolly Red Giant    Thu May 31, 2007 18:24 
 113   Women candidates     Deirdre Clancy    Thu May 31, 2007 19:08 
 114   FAO Marcas and Jolly Red Giant .....     Sharon.    Thu May 31, 2007 20:57 
 115   The answer wasn't long in coming     Fintan Lane    Thu May 31, 2007 22:10 
 116   Finian McGrath     Deirdre Clancy    Fri Jun 01, 2007 09:56 
 117   Libertarian Socialism     Miriam Cotton    Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:11 
 118   hear hear     wageslave    Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:32 
 119   Finian McGrath lied     Joe    Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:38 
 120   Ye Wha?     Realist    Fri Jun 01, 2007 14:09 
 121   two cents     John McAnulty    Fri Jun 01, 2007 14:19 
 122   So then....     John Mc Nutter    Fri Jun 01, 2007 14:51 
 123   Realist     Miriam Cotton    Fri Jun 01, 2007 15:06 
 124   labour     labour member    Fri Jun 01, 2007 17:22 
 125   We are not worthy     Non labour member    Fri Jun 01, 2007 17:44 
 126   Comprise? Sell out more like     Left wing govt    Fri Jun 01, 2007 18:42 
 127   Labour's "achievements"     Dub    Fri Jun 01, 2007 19:17 
 128   dare to differ     yer man    Tue Jun 05, 2007 14:13 
 129   Read. Don't post.     I can read    Tue Jun 05, 2007 15:11 
 130   Bin tax endgame?     Justin    Tue Jun 05, 2007 16:59 
 131   left in shambles....     joseph    Mon Jun 11, 2007 13:46 
 132   Amusing if nothing else     Pedant    Mon Jun 11, 2007 13:59 
 133   revolutionary logic     mirasma    Mon Jun 11, 2007 20:22 
 134   My my aren't we cranky?     Pedant    Mon Jun 11, 2007 21:52 
 135   End of the Story     Roger Cole    Mon Jun 11, 2007 21:53 
 136   Joseph/Mirasma     Miriam Cotton    Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:11 
 137   more grip     mirasma    Tue Jun 12, 2007 19:17 
 138   Oh dear, there he goes again     Pedant    Tue Jun 12, 2007 19:42 
 139   Oh dear, oh dear!     Miriam Cotton    Tue Jun 12, 2007 22:20 
 140   dobedobedo     mirasma    Wed Jun 13, 2007 21:25 
 141   Embarassing performance     Pedant    Thu Jun 14, 2007 06:43 
 142   tweedledumbs     mirasma    Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:48 
 143   Yup, liar     Pedant    Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:02 
 144   yup     mirasma    Thu Jun 14, 2007 15:24 
 145   Dearie me     Pedant    Thu Jun 14, 2007 15:38 
 146   reflect     mirasma    Thu Jun 14, 2007 23:34 
 147   Goodbye and good riddance     Pedant    Thu Jun 14, 2007 23:37 
 148   Thanks Ronan     Aragon    Sun Jun 17, 2007 09:53 
 149   bullsh*t     eamon    Tue Jun 19, 2007 23:41 


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