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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11Sean, we are evolving from all that stuff. Until recently we white trash needed to be told what to think, that's all. And was that the same Eamon McCann who, on George Best's death, obsessed about what sub-branch of religion the Bests "belonged" to? As if George cared about it....
This is anti catholic ranting though in fact Iris Robinson is not a catholic. It is itself a fascistic piece in its intolerance and whipping up of hatred against an identifiable grouping. Note the idea of homosexuality being a normal lifestyle is a very recent one though you might take it for granted so much that you regard someone who holds Iris’s views as being from Mars. It is also a very widespread idea as can be seen in the resistance of African churches to the pro gay trends in the west. Opposition to these trends is also not just a Christian idea – it is common to Islam, Judaism and the oriental faiths also. By all means lets have a debate on gay issues but not just to traduce faith and keep in mind that the idea of gay liberation is a relative and radical novelty even though it might have been a mainstream view for all of you life. It’s unlikely to have been the case in your parents time. One does not have to be a biblical literalist to have doubts about gay liberation though if one is same there is little choice as it is roundly condemned in the scriptures.
You're right, Sceptic, some of us have decided to do without other peoples' scriptures. Strange to say I put Iris and the church in much the same camp, but I can also see why a lot of Ulster people would find that hard to believe.
Until the second half of the twentieth century homosexuality was considered 'deviant' and sociology textbooks conventionally included it in chapters on deviancy. Why did "the conventional wisdom" of the ages do a U-turn from the 1970s onwards, beginning in North America?
"Whilst a firm believer in the freedom to religion and worship as a private matter as long as it does not infringe on the liberty of others"
What is hard to understand?
It was actually written in a personal capacity. There is no love lost with the church and religion and so?
A lot of religious rules have their origin in practical matters of hygiene & resources - until very recently, we were all told to breed as much as possible to keep 'our' numbers up, less affluent people had difficulty accessing family planning, & non-breeders were seen as deviant, unless they were in the cloth of the Church. Now population is outstripping the earth's ability to supply us, is it just a coincidence that homosexual men & women are less persecuted?
The likes of I Robinson are more bigots than disciples of Christ: 'Let him without sin cast the 1st stone!'
a certain amount of homophobia is natural to make hetrosexuals shag each other and propogate the species, it'll probably always be around
People like Iris Robinson have their uses.
They remind us of the past we are trying to leave behind.
They remind us that we have some way to go before achieving acceptance and tollerance for alternative lifestyles.
They remind us that there are people still in this country who have a severe lack of IQ as they vote people like her into power.
They keep us active, challenging our beliefs, our ideals and give us a reason we take to the streets, write to the papers and post on the websites to protest against the injustices in this world.
They help the activists stay active and remind us of who we really are.
Thanks Iris!
What has Mars done that deserves connection with Iris Robinson???
click on the link-
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
You say the Bible is "riddled with inconsistencies."
Name one.
Psalm 12:6-8:
6. The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
8 The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.