Tasted Like a Sausage Sandwich

by Segolene Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:34

sea changes do happen though- seemingly unlikely events occur like the Lisbon referendum outcome last June (was it only last June?) which none of the centre right parties foresaw.

What would it take to wean our friends and relatives off of the FF FG tit?

by ScarBucks Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:49

' x ' marks the spot. If 70-80 per cent of our fellow citizens blithely (?) vote for FF and FG candidates we're going to get another don't-rock-the-system form of government. Where will Labour be in all the woodpile after the votes are counted? Well it seems to me that FG's recent opposition to implementation of a public sector wage agreement is going to jar with Labour's support for the public sector - which means a coalition with the more right-leaning (leanings are relative and see-saw in Ireland) FG is out. Logically Labour might then have to "do a greenie" and go into government with FF on a cobbled Programme for Government. The last one agreed by Dick Spring in the 'eighties foundered on the Fr. Brendan Smith pedophile case extradition fiasco.

by x Mon Nov 24, 2008 08:12

The two pro business, centre right parties in Ireland (FF & FG) will take 70-80% of the vote between them at the next election. The public wants what the public gets. You wait, and watch, and dont be surprised. We've been here before, in much worse situations actually - but there wasnt any sea change, any huge shift in politics, any revolution. Street protests really dont add up to much in the end.

by Hilary Sun Nov 23, 2008 21:23

Er, right so. Whatever you're havin yourself.

You could always vote for one of the other parties that isn't in the government? Or maybe an independent who swears he won't go into coalition with the big boys?

Anyway- the sentence in the above should read:

- -But his weekend, Enda Kenny in a speech to his party gave every public sector worker in the country a good reason to hope he never becomes taoiseach...

by Michael - Human League Sun Nov 23, 2008 20:28

Well done Hilary.
I see what you are saying about King Kenny and his mish mash of old ''broilers'' who know in their heart of hearts that we really can see through the
Blueshirts and their zany ''policies'' of cut and slash the P.A.Y.E. old reliables who are so vulnerable to BURY.
Bad as things appear to look on the financial horizon i ,and millions of irish alike ,would prefer The Divel We Know ( F.F.) to make amends as to the
above mentioned. King Kenny cant even sort out the Shell 2 Sea scandal in the wesht , i rest my case.
What we must be grateful for is quite evident ,ie the elderly Irish people have scared Cowen &Co. in a way that shook the very foundation of The State
to the point of pure hysteria which is now ''on a roll'' in more ways than 1. Cowen & Co. are in dread of the People Of Ireland and it is showing in the faces
of Fianna Failers the length of Ireland .
They got us into this now i say let them pay for the mistakes and get us out of it , as you so rightly said of King Kenny and his smirky speech on pay
restraints etc and that showed the blueshirts hand and the ruthless bastards that their history has shown them to be.
No ,let Cowen accept his responsibilities and earn his pension like we all have to ,and this time keep F.F. In power and make them effen sweat.

As for Harney she will be Gone by January 09 citing ''Get me out of here i'm a celebrity'' , and gone she is. Order the Taxi now.

AS for King Kenny he sounds to me as if he wants to arrest me every time i hear his voice....Listen to him and be afraid ,Be very very afraid ....

by Hilary Sun Nov 23, 2008 19:36

it seems videos don't work when you have the site set up to display in Irish for reason... here is another go:

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