OscailtEaster 2016 - The Irish Republic 100 Years On.
On the centenary anniversary of the 1916 Easter Rising it is worth reflecting on what has happened since then and the aspirations of the proclamation to guarantee equal rights and equal opportunities to all its citizens and cherishing all of the children of the nation equally.
The Rising itself was doomed to failure from the start but as with life itself often the most unpredictable and unexpected things happen because despite the lack of initial public support, after the executions sympathies swung the other way and as they say the rest was history and the ripples spread out, because it has been said the fight for independence of India was inspired by the Irish Rising.
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Rather than make a sweeping insinuation about the Carnegie Trusts and the financing of libraries, you might read some basic information<br />
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<a href="http://www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/carnegie-libraries-in-ireland/" title="http://www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/carnegie-libraries-in-ireland/">http://www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary...land/</a><br />
Details how libraries were funded, and notes that in addition Carnegie endowed numerous Church organs in both RC and CoI parishes.<br />
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It really takes the biscuit, that conspiracy can be found in the provision of library services and books. I have no connection with Carnegie, but the library in Dun Laoghaire features in some of my earliest memoriesRe: Carnegie insinuation - for shamehttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/105768#comment3009012016-05-29T00:21:24+00:00TIt looks like you missed the context of question posed about Carnegie influence ...It looks like you missed the context of question posed about Carnegie influence in Ireland.<br />
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The issue is not that the libraries were good or bad and in fact they undoubtedly had a positive role in regard to availability of books and so forth. What is perhaps less well known is that both Carnegie and J.D. Rockfeller both richest men in America spent more money on education in the 20 years from 1900 than the government did in America. They had a huge influence in shaping the education system there and their primary objective as revealed by (former New York State Teacher of the Year) John Taylor Gatto who researched the history of the compulsory schooling system, was to essentially dumb down the masses and kill their intellect. The idea was to only to educate them enough to do their jobs not to question authority or ponder how and why society was unjust. This was occurring at the very moment when both the US and Europe were hit by waves of mass social unrest and strikes and workers were exerting their power. This was a direct threat to the leading Capitalists of the time and they were smart men and knew they had to take a long term view and plan accordingly which they did.<br />
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The question in the article above is therefore trying to see how our own education system was linked into this in terms of how the agenda, methods, ethos and curricula was set because we all know how the conservative Catholic hierarchy in this country created a system of rote learning, obedience, deference to authority and was very conservative and managed to institutionalize this form into Irish society. These were the very objectives to crush the rebellious spirit of militant and rebellious workers and unions. Thus, Carnegie by making these generous donations, automatically bought influence and respect with the "authorities" and no doubt the output of his other efforts in America at shaping and molding minds through education would have been adopted enthusiastically here. Indeed the church has always been in thrall of capitalism and right wing ideology in general.Was schooling a social control conspiracy?http://www.indymedia.ie/article/105768#comment3009022016-05-29T07:17:06+00:00ScholasticusI worry somewhat about the import of the post by T. In the UK during the long 19...I worry somewhat about the import of the post by T. In the UK during the long 19th century the trades unions and other social movements agitated for basic schooling, along with other things like decent salaries & working conditions, child welfare, pensions, voting rights and the rest. In Ireland, the religious orders founded by men and women from the late 18th century onwards edged out the sporadic underground efforts of the wandering hedge schoolmasters, and overtook the efforts of the 1831 national school initiative by the colonial government. The gradual growth of literacy among the Irish peasantry was to help raise political consciousness among the population, especially from the 1879-82 period of land agitation led by Parnell and Michael Davitt. In the wilderness of North Leitrim a young peasant boy, Sean MacDiarmada, got a basic national school education and on his own initiative sought tuition in Irish language from a teacher in Glangevlin in nearby Cavan. Primary school boys and girls around Ireland got involved in the Gaelic League (a voluntary educational movement), the co-op movement and the nationalist political project. Some of them took part in the events of 1916. I imagine that in England, Scotland and Wales the educational efforts of the national school government system, combined with church schools and the educational efforts of trades unions, helped the intensification of popular agitation for social improvements. Without widespread basic schooling and the availability of public libraries (Michael Davitt and James Connolly did a lot of spare time research in libraries) the social movements of 19th century Britain and Ireland would never have borne so much ultimate and piecemeal fruit.<br />
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I suggest that it is simplistic to assert that Carnegie's public libraries and the schooling systems were a plot to calm and control the social forces agitating for change.<br />
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