OscailtThe Moorish rule in Spain/How the Moors brought civilization to EuropeThis article is a counterweight against 21th Islampphobia, referring to the Moorish civilization
Breaking news: Italian MP, Sgarbi denounces the Statistical Fraud on COVID-19. The speech of the Member of Parliament Vittorio Sgarbi in the session of the Italian Camera, Meeting no. 331 of Friday 24, April, 2020. Vittorio Sgarbi, denounces the closure of 60% of the businesses for 25,000 COVID-19 Deaths, of which the National Institute of Health says 96.3% died NOT of COVID-19 but of other pathologies. That means only 925 have died of the virus. 24,075 have died of other things.2017-05-15T16:55:30+00:00Indymedia Irelandimc-ireland@lists.indymedia.iehttp://www.indymedia.ie/atomfullposts?story_id=106155http://www.indymedia.ie/graphics/feedlogo.gifIslamophobia is a stupid word crafted to stifle valid criticism of religious "ideas"http://www.indymedia.ie/article/106155#comment3011692017-05-15T16:55:30+00:00Humanistok, so some moorish people were a resourceful lot. But what has any of that got ...ok, so some moorish people were a resourceful lot. But what has any of that got to do with a silly misguided superstitious belief they happened to have in a non existent deity as well?<br />
And why should that nutty set of ideas (Islam) or it's accompanying sexist and repressive sharia law system get any credit for any good things it's misguided human believers also happened to do while holding those ideas?<br />
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Why should I defend that silly set of religious ideas from ridicule on the basis that some humans who once believed such nonsense, also happened to get a few other things right?<br />
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Islamophobia = Fear of Islam.<br />
Islam is a set of ideas<br />
an idea is <strong>not </strong>a race.<br />
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So commonsense would indicate that Islamophobia is fear of a particular set of silly ideas involving a deity and not racism no?<br />
And I think history (and current events) tells us that we SHOULD rightly fear backward religious ideas if they gain a strong foothold in our societies<br />
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For the sake of clarity we should not erroneously conflate a religious idea with "race" of people who happen to hold it. It's muddying the waters.<br />
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I will heartily defend the human rights of people who also happen to erroneously believe in superstitious ideas such as those espoused by Islam.<br />
But I will also hold up to scepticism and scrutiny the oppressive and superstitious ideas of Islam at ever opportunity as I would do with any other<br />
religious idea that did not hold water and served merely to stunt the thinking of mankind.<br />
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<strong>Because the religious idea itself is NOT the same thing as the man who holds that idea at a particular moment in time. </strong><br />
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The fact is, pieces such as this and deliberately crafted insidious terms like "Islamophobia" are merely part of an attempt to stifle valid criticism of nutty and backward religious ideas.<br />
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If such attempts succeed then billions more humans will be doomed to wander unevolved in the dark ages of ideas and religion will continue to hold sway in the minds of men as a stunting and oppressive influence on our thinking and a very useful system of control for use by our oppressors.<br />
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Free your minds. No gods or masters!<br />
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there was never an ''islamic golden age''http://www.indymedia.ie/article/106155#comment3011712017-05-18T21:01:21+00:00co2Islam once again stole all the intellectual rights of those who preceeded islam....Islam once again stole all the intellectual rights of those who preceeded islam...and again we have it here,do your research instead of sounding like some hashish stoner......lay off the weed you sound clouded and confused man!This is typical of radicalisation literature.http://www.indymedia.ie/article/106155#comment3011762017-05-27T23:16:25+00:00-Aside from the fact that this whole cut and paste job breaches guidelines and se...Aside from the fact that this whole cut and paste job breaches guidelines and seems almost gibberish it caught my attention. Because I know a lot about the Iberian peninsula in the medieval period. & I know a lot about the transmission of ideas. & I have seen the ideas and conceits in the text above again and again especially in the hands and mouths of young men and women. It flatters many of the Maghreb and Al Madiaq to think that their ancestors broughts civilisation to Europe. Conquest does not bring civilisation. War may not impose democracy. Gibberish the word is traced by many to the so-called father of Chemistry Abu Mūsā Jābir ibn Hayyān. He had lots of extra titles because he really was very well regarded. He like myself was a polymath. You can read on wikipedia how he was regarded as a prominent polymath: a chemist and alchemist, astronomer and astrologer, engineer, geographer, philosopher, physicist, and pharmacist and physician & of course the "father of chemistry". Astrid's article would have people believe that the Ummayat dynasties brought his teachings to Europe rather than just happened to carry a few test tubes and decanters, potions and coloured powders in their luggage. Yes the Ummayad rule stretched from his Persia to exactly 350 metres from where I live in Barcelona. For in the ghetto the muslims shared streets with the sephardic jews. I do a walking tour about this. I know an awful lot about how the ideas were passed from people to people. They were not "brought" not "gifted" by any rulers. Though obviously a ruler may destroy ideas and information and all civilisations would it appear be very good at destroying history. Jabir was known as Geber the latin version of his name when his ideas spread in the 13th - 14th centuries. By which stage there were many Gebers. The original ideas of Abu Musa Jabir companion of the 6th Shia imam were so profitable that emulsified a whole load of good chemistry, dodgy alchemy, and servicable engineering. We call this phenomena pseudoepigrapha. I wrote a blog about an example months ago here : <br />
THe numbers yes and of course the zero too! All such old hat. The zero passed from India through Iran before the prophet did his Hegira. You see the numbers before were perfectly useful and it is so significant that the cypher zero took so long to be useful. But before calculus and its simultaneous discovery in Europe the epistemological system of mathematics served the needs quite well. Illiterates were capable of addition, subtraction, multiplication and division up to 100,000 using two hands and all segments. There are probably youtube videos showing you how to too. Intelligence and ideas endure you see. When Diego de Landa the Spanish bishop who used the holy inquisition power to order burnt 27 books of the Mayan civilisation he left us with no idea of their mathematical systems. We eventually deciphered them and found their numerical bases of 20, 40 and so on forth and their calendar lengths..., my point being mathematics didn't end. Spanish civilisation evenutally gave us conspiracy nuts with gibberish pointing at illustrations of Oreo biscuits claiming the final "bakhtun" would mean the end of everything in 2012. You see enough Aristotle & Euclid survived despite the civilisations that conquered not because of them. & kif they had not survived they would have been discovered again. Calculus is a perfect example. If we are honest we see evidence of an understanding of higher math in the ancient world. Astrology? oh dear me, people have always looked to the stars. <br />
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But people, young people in my very neighbourhood lap this stuff up when they are imprisoned as a result of petty crime. & then they are radicalised. We all like to think our ancestors were special. WE all like to think our wars were just our empires wise. <br />
goo.gl/c4B0Oday jobhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/106155#comment3011772017-05-30T13:27:03+00:00EmpathiserBad state of affairs when even polymaths have to work as tour guides and actuall...Bad state of affairs when even polymaths have to work as tour guides and actually have to publish their own blogs. You'd have thought that publishers would be falling over themselves to sign them up . I'm another one so can fully sympathise , it can get very lonely at times being so clever. But what ever you don't give up on it, mate.Irony of ironieshttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/106155#comment3012292017-07-16T19:28:47+00:00Captain Spaulding" How the Moors brought civilization to Europe " ..... and how they now want to ..." How the Moors brought civilization to Europe " ..... and how they now want to drag the entire world back to the 7th century