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category dublin | bin tax / household tax / water tax | opinion/analysis author Monday November 29, 2004 13:43author by Karen - Labour voter but ot a member Report this post to the editors

What's the plan if the Council collapses?

What is the Campaign Plan?

Tonight councilors in Dublin City will (Fingers crossed) reject the Estimates in protest at the imposition of another staggering increase in the cost of waste collection, the hated Bin Tax.

But talking to a Labour member this morning and arguing why their councilors should vote against the Charges he raised the question of what the Campaign plans to do if and when the Council collapses.

As he outlined it if the Council hasn’t passed the Estimates within the time set for it, the Government will collapse the Council and appoint a bureaucrat to run the city.

All input from elected representatives will be extinguished. This system will last until the next local elections. So for four years the city will be undemocratically run at the whim of the City Manager. No oversight, no representation from the people or anything like that.

This sounds like the nuclear option to me, but there doesn’t seem to be much thinking from Sinn Fein or the SWP or the Campaign itself about what people will do if the Council is brought down. The Labour guy I was talking to pointed out that the City Manager wants to privatize thousands of Council flats and radically cut the social housing stock and that projects like this and others will be implemented by the City bureaucracy.

Now I don’t have some sort of fetish for the Council or elected representation but I do think before the councilors and campaigners fighting to collapse the Council succeed in doing so they have a responsibility to explain what the strategy will be in the aftermath of it collapsing. I am NOT opposed to the idea of collapsing the Council, I just want to know what’s the plan if it is collapsed.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Council will NOT be dissolved     reality checker    Mon Nov 29, 2004 13:53 
   In the name of DEMOCRACY - Collapse the council.     ABTA    Mon Nov 29, 2004 14:02 
   Bring it on     Jack    Mon Nov 29, 2004 14:14 
   it IS happening     Jill    Mon Nov 29, 2004 14:26 
   Carry on     Still not payin    Mon Nov 29, 2004 14:29 
   Dissolution     easy answer    Mon Nov 29, 2004 15:29 
   Good Question     Justin Moran    Mon Nov 29, 2004 15:45 
   strike!     easy answer    Mon Nov 29, 2004 15:48 
   I don't think its going to happen     Ray    Mon Nov 29, 2004 15:54 
 10   A strike would also work     Ray    Mon Nov 29, 2004 15:56 
 11   Strike is what is needed     easy answer    Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:17 
 12   Indifferent Shrugs     Justin Moran    Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:24 
 13   So what you are saying Justin is....     ABTA    Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:29 
 14   Strike is the ONLY strategy that will defeat dissilution     easy answer    Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:37 
 15   Dissolution would be a significant victory     Cieran    Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:38 
 16   Cieran     Amused    Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:44 
 17   re. Justin     Ray    Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:52 
 18   I wonder what proportion of SF supporters....     provoid    Mon Nov 29, 2004 16:52 
 19   Justin - Ignore them     ABTA    Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:02 
 20   Amused, you're point is????????????     Cieran    Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:05 
 21   .     .    Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:06 
 22   Ah But Cieran     Amused    Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:10 
 23   Just to add, waiver scheme is to be abolished     Terry    Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:12 
 24   Very amused     Cieran    Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:27 
 25   HA HA     Amused    Mon Nov 29, 2004 17:48 
 26   Wha??????????     Curious    Mon Nov 29, 2004 18:14 
 27   So what?     voter    Mon Nov 29, 2004 18:17 
 28   more at politricks.ie     wolfotad4    Mon Nov 29, 2004 18:25 
 29   So What Indeed     Amused    Mon Nov 29, 2004 18:26 
 30   Curious What????????????????     Taxer    Mon Nov 29, 2004 19:16 
 31   Taxer     Curious    Mon Nov 29, 2004 19:22 
 32   Curious     Cieran    Mon Nov 29, 2004 19:30 
 33   Sinn Féin will be voting against the Book of Estimates - Burke     SF    Mon Nov 29, 2004 19:50 
 34   Lies     Tom    Mon Nov 29, 2004 21:29 
 35   was the election to the council democratic, accountable open to scrutiny and journalistic criticism?     iosaf    Mon Nov 29, 2004 21:44 
 36   SWP Sectarianism     pat c    Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:09 
 37   SWP     observer    Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:25 
 38   Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire     Justin Moran    Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:29 
 39   A yes voting leftie     A yes voting Leftie    Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:24 
 40   A yes voting Leftie?     ABTA    Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:37 
 41   Bin tax and Stealth Taxes     Michael Hennigan    Tue Nov 30, 2004 17:45 
 42   The Bin Tax is not just about money     seedot    Tue Nov 30, 2004 18:39 
 43   SWP Watcher     SWP Commment    Tue Nov 30, 2004 23:38 
 44   class party     Con Lee    Wed Dec 01, 2004 00:04 
 45   seedot     observer    Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:02 


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