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Clare Shell to Sea Picket - 14th Sept '07.

category clare | environment | news report author Saturday September 15, 2007 09:19author by Clare Shell to Seaauthor email clareshelltosea at gmail dot comauthor phone 085 1607287 Report this post to the editors

In Solidarity with Mayo and today's Sit-Down Protest at Bellanaboy.

It's been clear for the last 2 years that the argument against the Shell Corrib Gas Project is won.

And the amount of cars beeping their horns in Ennis this evening is testament to the support for Shell to Sea, genuinely.

The Government continue in their refusal to debate the arguments and negotiate a settlement, and they persist in using force against the protests at Bellanaboy, a protest that has gained national and international support and recognition as ... LEGITIMATE & JUST.

Greens - You have buried your heads in the Fianna Fáil mire. Yoy are complicit now. You are proving yourselves to be unreliable and unworthy of trust. The Green Party pumps for Shell.

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author by Mayo Localpublication date Sat Sep 15, 2007 14:25author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Well done and thank you to everyone in Clare Shell To Sea

author by gan ainmpublication date Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

These shell stations will feel the impact of protests financially and immediatley. More importantly they are everywhere, as not everybody can get to rossport, people should be targetting the stations more and more. Make shopping at shell as popular as buying south african goods in the 80s.

author by Shell petrol stationspublication date Sun Sep 16, 2007 13:14author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Shell doens't own the Shell petrol stations. A company called Topaz does. They also own the Statoil ones.

author by DSF - Sinn Féinpublication date Sun Sep 16, 2007 13:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors

All the petrol sold in Shell stations is still supplied by Shell, so all profits go to Shell. The deal with Topaz precludes the franchise holder buying petrol or diesel from anyone else. Picketing a Shell station, therefore, hurts Shell.

All the petrol and diesel sold in Statoil stations is supplied by Statoil. The deal between Topaz and Statoil stops the operator of the station from getting supplies from anyone else. So if you picket a Statoil station, and you should, you are having an effect on Statoil's profits.

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author by Gan ainmpublication date Sun Sep 16, 2007 13:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Seriously wise up, you have tried splitting hairs on this already, trying to claim a shell station doesnt represent shell. These firms are related and hurting one hurts them all, unless you are saying that Topaz is in competition with shell, which they clearly not as they are sporting big shell signs outside their stations.

author by Dónall Garvin - Shellpublication date Mon Sep 17, 2007 08:56author email donall.garvin at shell dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

All of the petrol that is used by all the cars in Ireland is imported - and it is all pretty much the same stuff that is used in all the petrol stations.

If you buoycott Shell stations and go elsewhere you are in effect making no difference - Shell sold the petrol station sites a year or two ago, another company runs the franchise and the (the crude the) petrol is (probably) imported from is from Russia or the Middle East.

By all means use less petrol; walk, take the bus or train but don't think that by buoycotting a petrol station does anything other than annoy people who have nothing to do with shell.

Also your reporting on Shell is a bit partisan.

Related Link: http://www.shell.com
author by Gan ainmpublication date Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Donal you are working for a firm involved in the rape of Irish resources and the oppression of a vulnerable rural community, hang your smug head.

author by Ramonpublication date Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Some of the comments posted here are not very sensible. We can't be commenting on rape and pillage of the Irish natural resources on the one hand and on the other hold out our hand for gas resources from elsewhere, all the while complaining that it is so expensive.

Overall Shell has a very good record of dealing with the communities in which it operates in a sensitive manner; much more so than many other companies in the energy sector. Based on what I have been able to read about this case, it has been the same for Corrib. Some of the comments posted here are rather one-sided views. I think one could do much worse than having Shell as the operator of a project such as this. It has listened, at least to some degree, to the input of the community and has made concessions in the project to address concerns. The gas pipelines people are worried about exist all over the world without any problems and to think that because they are in Ireland they somehow will be very unsafe does not make any sense.

author by HDpublication date Mon Sep 17, 2007 13:00author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Ramon,
you obviously came in on the last train.
Please try to inform yourself before writing such nonsense again.
Maybe you would like to google shell's international record. If you do then you certainly won't repeat your last comment.

author by icypublication date Mon Sep 17, 2007 13:18author address author phone Report this post to the editors

For Ramon

"Saro-Wiwa had been fighting against environmental degradation of his native Ogoniland by the Shell oil company"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/crossing_continen...3.stm

This article was written by John Egan, Shell spokesman in Erris.
As the old joke goes - 'we know what you are now we're just discussing price'

author by Henrypublication date Mon Sep 17, 2007 13:58author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Well-paid Shell stooge shows ignorance of company's human rights record,

-claims that since all petrol is imported, therefore not buying Shell petrol will make no difference to competitors and franchise holders-

-shaky grasp of economics as well as spelling-

-how much is the fool getting paid to post this tripe?

(speculation: he may be doing it on his lunchbreak from cleaning executive toilets in Corrib House)

Related Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_surrounding_Royal_Dutch_Shell
author by Dónall Garvin - Shellpublication date Mon Sep 17, 2007 16:37author email donall.garvin at shell dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

Thanks for your comments Henry.
I should probably take more care when typing.

It seems that this board is a closed-shop for anyone who doesn't completely share your points of view.

As far as hanging my head in shame - at least I am prepared to put my name to my words and hiding behind a pseudonym.

If you feel that you views are not being listened to and your objections being taken seriously it may be because of your intransigent stance.

Related Link: http://www.shell.com
author by MacEpublication date Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:27author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Intransigence on vital issues is to be commended, Henry. Dónall, scores of opponents of Shell's plans for Erris have taken beatings because of that stance. Some have been hospitalised. This doesn't happen to Shell loyalists, which might explain why some people are inclined to use pseudonyms and others are blasé.

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