Banned French Film to get Irish Premiere at Bloody Sunday Commemoration weekend

by Fred Johnston Mon Jan 25, 2010 19:00

This event is acknowledged now in most history books that cover the period. I have seen one other film, whose name, sadly, I cannot recall, which also covers this.

by shane Mon Jan 25, 2010 19:41

It is undeniable, so you would hope that any historian worth her/his salt would acknowledge it in a book on the period - how it is acknowledged is another question.

For example, you could argue that Bloody Sunday was "acknowledged' by the Widgery whitewash.

The French state remains in a state of denial, both in terms of the facts, and of responsibility. The archives that Einaudi tried to access in order to present as evidence in the trial of Papon remain closed.

I would argue that to fully acknowledge responsibility for this crime against humanity would unravel the pretence that France is a "republic' and expose the seamless continuity between the collaborationist Vichy state and the IVth and Vth Republics.

It also goes to the heart of French race relations as it sets the precedents and the contexts for how the state has dealt with its "Arab' or "Muslim" minorities ever since.

by puca Tue Jan 26, 2010 19:53

Touche Shane, the French Republic is a sham. They keep no statistics of the ethnic and demographic makeup of the state because "we are all French". It is therefore officially impossible to measure discrimination. It is akin to the US military refusing to record the number of civilians it kills in Iraq and Afghanistan. BTW, the MIchael Haneke film Cache (Hidden) deals obliquely with this massacre and repression.

by shane Tue Jan 26, 2010 22:51

Puca. Yes. "Caché" is a good film, but as you say, it deals with 17 Oct '61 only obliquely.

And yes, France's republican "race blindness" is just a fig leaf, as anyone from the 18 century Haitian revolutionaries to the present day inhabitants of the 'banlieues' could tell you.

There have been about 20 or so films made in French alone that deal with this, most of them are documentaries, but at least 2 of them feature films, including "Caché" and one called "Meurtres pour mémoire".

I am just finishing subtitling this film at the moment. When it's done I'll throw it up on the net somewhere and stick a link to it here. It's grim as f**k, but well worth watching and the analysis at the end about the true nature of the [French] state is a bit dated in its terms, but basically accurate.

by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh Tue Jan 26, 2010 23:43

Where can the film be got on the internet. Language options???

by shane Wed Jan 27, 2010 00:17

Gearoid. I'm giving it English subtitles at the moment. I'll have a look around and see if I can upload it onto anarchoTV or some similar website where it can be streamed. I'll also see about loading as a torrent file somewhere.

In all likelihood this will be after this coming week end.

Suggestions as to where I could upload it would be welcome. But I quite like anarchoTV.

by Máirtín Wed Jan 27, 2010 21:37

do i need to book in advance for the film screening? or will there definitely be places if i turn up the on the 30th?

by shane Thu Jan 28, 2010 13:19

Just be there at 10 am

:)

by kevin murphy - 32 csm Sun Jan 31, 2010 17:05

without wishing to contradict Shane the precedent was well and truly set in the small Algerian town of Setif and its surrounding villages and Hamlets on VE day and the weeks that followed in 1945 as Algerian natives gathered to celebrate the formal surrender of nazi Germany . On the unveling of an Algerian national flag by the procession the french gendarmerie opened fire en masse with machine guns and an orgy of violence followed . Thousands were mown down and hundreds killed in that initial shooting. Villages were bombed from the air and shelled from the sea by the French navy , despite Algeria supposedly being an integral part of the French republic . Women and children herded onto cliff rockfaces and thrown to their deaths . Horrific actions , rapes and mutilations which wouldnt be out of place in the agonies of the Congo took place across the district . French settler vigilantes even went into the jails and lynched hundreds of prisoners . When it was over a fortnight later the death toll is estimated at anywhere between 6,000 by the more polite french historians of today ( the intial french claim was 1020 in the Tubert report , their Widgery) and 45,000 dead by the Algerians themselves . As in this case the photogrpahic and film evidence was largely destroyed by the french authorities . Only a few seconds of the Setif footage remains in existence .
The commander of the french gendarmerie at the time claimed to his superiors " Ive just bought you ten years of peace" . Which was largely true so traumatic was the massacre for the Algerian population who didnt regain their composure until the mid 1950s . And barely a word was ever said about it in cosmopolitan Paris , who didnt even apologise until 2005 .

by Kevin Muphy - 32 csm Sun Jan 31, 2010 17:55

this is an excellent documentary which deals with the life and times of controversial revolutionary lawyer Jaques Verges , who went to Algeria to defend the first wave of resistance fighters who sprung up in Algeria from the 1950s onwards . In later years to the horror and dismay of many Verges acted as defence lawyer for the notorious nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie , the Butcher of Lyon . But the case Verges put for Barbies defence was very simple . Please tell us exactly what this man did to Frenchmen and women in Lyon which was in any manner different to what serving french authorities in modern France did to the inhabitants of Algeria years long after Barbie was put to flight . Torture ? executions ? collective punishments ? Mass murder ? Are these crimes only crimes when they are carried out against white Europeans ? It would seem so . Around a million died in Algeria . from the mid 50s until independence was won .

trailer here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KC_5pnbsWU

part one

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=612068603936940...72202

part 2

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=612068603936940...ew=3#

the events of Algeria gave rise to far reaching consequences accross the middle east and Europe . Notably the political career of the far right Jean Marie Le Pen , who served as a paratrooper in Algeria , the rise of the resistance philosophy of Franz Fanon which was instrumental in so many resistance movements globally in the 60s and 70s including those which sprung up in Europe itself . Nassers material support for Algerian independence fighters was also a major factor in the British and French decision to launch the ill fated Suez invasion , and the fall out and rutptures from that imperialist arrogance . This docuemntary is especially interesting because it tearfully reunites Verges with some of the women resistance fighters he defended in the very french jail were so many were tortured and slaughtered . The very crimes the french put Barbie on trial for .

also here is the seminal " Battle of Algiers" which deals with advent of the urban guerilla strategy of the FLN and the equally ruthless French measures which suppressed it .

in 12 segments

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1g010_battle-of-algiers-1

this film was also part of the induction training of the Black Panthers of the USA in the 1970s .