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category national | anti-war / imperialism | opinion/analysis author Tuesday August 24, 2010 14:28author by Declan Culle - None Report this post to the editors

Israel's Hypocrisy

Can someone please tell me if the Ireland has become the new Pro - Israel proxy.
The reason I asked is there seem to be endless letters published in various papers that support
Israel's right to do this, that, and the other, while not coming under any criticism for its actions.
People in this country need to remember that Israel has played the 'hard done by' card since its creation in 1948.

Israel's Hypocrisy

Can someone please tell me if the Ireland has become the new Pro - Israel proxy.
The reason I asked is there seem to be endless letters published in various papers that support Israel's right to do this, that, and the other, while not coming under any criticism for its actions.
People in this country need to remember that Israel has played the 'hard done by' card since its creation in 1948.
Just ask the American Government how innocent Israel are considering the they attacked the USS Liberty in order to blame the attack on Egypt during the Six Day War in 1967.
People also need to remember Rachel Corrie who was killed by an Israeli Bulldozer while trying to prevent the destruction of a doctor's house in the Gaza Strip, and the fate of the Irish ship named in her memory that was seized in international waters by Israeli armed forces. A similar action days earlier left ten unarmed Turkish activist dead.
Or maybe people should remember the Irish passports used in the assassination of the Hamas leader in Dubai.

And finally, just to bring things a little closer to home, don't forget the members of the Israeli security services that were allowed to carry automatic weapons at the Shamrock Rovers vs Bnei Yehuda Tel Aviv game in Tallaght in July, which the Irish Government probably had not choice but to agree to.
Israel is no shrinking voilet, it is more like a torn in the side of sovern nations. It is a nation that thinks it can trample over the rights of other people, and then in the same breath cry foul when any person or nation rise's to challenge them.
People in Ireland need to see Israel for the nation it really is, a nation that controls American Foreign Policy via its massive lobby within the US Congress and Senate, and because of that control we will never see a lasting peace in the Middle East, but we will probably see another illegal war. Mostly likely in Iran. All in the name of protecting Israel,
a nation that needs no protection.

Thomas Cullen
Dublin 7

author by Tim Johnstonpublication date Tue Aug 24, 2010 16:40author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Israel has been playing the hard done-by card since 1948? gee, where did they come up with that? They've only been attacked by their neighbouring countries twice in this time, but, sure, it's all in their heads.

Ireland is probably the most rabidly pro-Palestinian Nationalist country in Europe bar Norway, and you think otherwise because of a few letters in the Irish Times?

"unarmed turkish activists"? Have you seen the video footage? Even the BBC Panorama programme bust that myth.

The saddest thing of all is, that when foreign security forces brought guns to a football match in Ireland, you see that as an indictment of Israel.

Israel today is a powerful country, for its size, but only because it needs to be. It still has not mastered Star Wars, however, so can't really defend itself from the next kind of attack - Iranian nukes. So, yeh, it still needs protection.

author by Conor. Mpublication date Tue Aug 24, 2010 17:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors


''Israel today is a powerful country, for its size, but only because it needs to be''

Wow, thats some lapse in logic there. I cant be arsed dealing with the rest of what you said. I dont feel I need to. Ireland has had a good dose of physical and psychological oppression and we can relate to the Palestinian situation, so your little rant will go unnoticed here (luckily).

Anyway, about Israel being powerful because it 'needs to be' Did this apparent power just appear from the blue sky? No. Let me recommend some reading for you that isn't the Jerusalem Post (ugh, I even feel sick writing that name).

''THE FATEFUL TRIANGLE - The United State, Israel & The Palestinians'' by Noam Chomsky. [yes, its old, but the facts are laid bare]

author by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite partypublication date Tue Aug 24, 2010 17:27author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Not yet; we're waiting for the pirates of the Mid East to return the looted cameras, phones and computers.
But you probably mean the doctored IDF topspin.
More Polly-linguistics from the hasbara parrots nailed to their self-caged perches.
Not pretty, Polly.

author by Tim Johnstonpublication date Tue Aug 24, 2010 20:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Conor, I feel the same about Chomsky the way you do about the
Jerusalem Post.
And, much as you like to think you are, you are not the arbiter of what is logical, nor of whose opinions have merit.

author by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite partypublication date Wed Aug 25, 2010 09:57author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Chomsky would be a bit rational, balanced and forensic for your tastes. He does present so much incriminating evidence to back his arguments and revelations. Stick to your old testament, it makes such a comforting tract to support your claims to the land and resources of Palestine.
And if that fails you can fall back on the Steyns and Krauthammers and the vast throng of paid hacks installed to maintain your delusions.

author by Tim Johnstonpublication date Thu Aug 26, 2010 18:07author address author phone Report this post to the editors

really?
Because Chomsky opposes the one-state solution (also known as the no-state solution). In spite of this his general leftism is good enough reason for me not to buy a copy of one of his books.
So, to recap - Chomsky= rational, objective and forensic. Right wing writers = paid hacks.
Ok, got that.

author by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite partypublication date Thu Aug 26, 2010 18:45author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I've identified it.
Its one of those failures of intelligence.
You dont read chomsky because you perceive him as left wing.
I thought the idea was to know your enemy.

In other words, Tim, you are criticising what you admit to being ignorant of.

Well, it proves you're not with The Mossies.
Shalom.

author by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite partypublication date Thu Aug 26, 2010 19:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

makes sense.It was his linguistic theories introduced me to him in the 70's.I dont wait for his oracles, but he has a fair grasp of material and analysis.Lotsa people i detest their conclusions, but their information can be useful.He's a bit abstruse betimes.I hope thats a wird.

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